. >> let me talk about another jack nelson. i really didn't know this jack nelson. [laughter] i mean, our problems in the civil rights movement was that people who were writing about us were making as the problems. jack never did that. i was just down in albany, just before christmas because it occurred to me that it was exactly 50 years ago that i was down there. i started driving around and remembering things. and the new york times wrote us out. he wrote the obituary of martin luther king, the non-violence was dead. it was rejected. martin luther king could not defeated sir laurie project. and the story really was that the kennedy administration wanted carl sanders to win in 1962, and there was a federal injunction that was placed on martin luther king. so we weren't up against, you know, lori pritchett in georgia. we were really taking on the federal government, and we chose not to do that. and jack always seemed to understand that we were not the problem. i use to a quarrel with the new york times quite a bit because they were -- well, i think they were being p